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You’re correct that I don’t represent the Church or the parish. But I can share what’s been published in the parish newsletter.Over the past two weeks, the newsletter has highlighted concerns about the proposed Cycleway 9 design outside the church. The main worries are about losing or narrowing the pavement, how it might affect pedestrians and parishioners gathering before and after Mass, funerals, and processions, and possible safety issues with the new layout.Last week, parishioners were encouraged to get in touch with the Council and request a full public consultation.This week’s newsletter shares the Council’s response: the designs are still “at draft stage and are being reviewed internally and with TfL.” There will be a chance for residents and businesses to give feedback when public engagement details come out in October. The newsletter calls this “welcome news.”From what I see, the newsletter isn’t against Cycleway 9 itself. It’s mainly concerned about this specific design outside the church and is asking for proper public consultation before any decisions are made.No doubt individual Catholics, including parishioners, will have a range of views on Cycleway 9, just as the wider Chiswick community does. As far as I’m aware, one’s position on cycle lanes is not an article of the Catholic faith.People are free to agree or disagree with the concerns raised in the newsletter. Still, my main point is that none of this justifies replying with “Never trust a Catholic.”

Peter Thompson ● 31d

I've had a couple of conversations about this post on X with two friends of mine who are Catholics living in Chiswick, one a regular member of the congregation at Our Lady's, one feeling guilty about not going as often as she should. Both said more or less the same thing about the 'Never trust a Catholic' comment - that it was an importation of the sectarian language used in the north of Ireland and that it didn't particularly bother them as they had grown up with it.What did unsettle them was the way in which some prominent voices within the Chiswick community had reacted to this issue when it first arose and now that it has been re-emerged. A seam of anti-Catholicism which has always existed in England, and let's face it, is enshrined in our constitution, was exposed and came as a shock to people who hadn't encountered it before.One tell that was mentioned was the reaction people had to Father Michael Dunne's comments made some years ago about the Luftwaffe. He made the perfectly reasonable point that the bombing of the church didn't stop weddings and funerals using the pavement area at the front but the Cycleway 9 would have. Some ridiculously managed to claim this meant he was saying that cyclists are worse than Nazis, an obviously false distortion which it is hard to see being motivated by anything other than bigotry.When the idea was originally being discussed on this forum, I recall obviously ill-informed suggestions about how weddings and funerals could emerge from the side callously indifferent to the indignity for the deceased of their coffin being clumsily guided through the a narrow entrance.At the time it was suggested that the original design would have been perfectly acceptable to all parties if the church was given the ability to close the cycleway when there was a risk to people attending events or on Sunday mornings when the usage of the cycleway is pretty minimal anyway. It was never fully explained why this was unworkable.Most of us on this forum are not Catholics but there is a principle here that effects us all. Some have said that the Church has no right to take over a public space. I'm not sure of the law here but there have certainly been other cases where long-established use (in this case for well over a century) incurs rights. If you were to ignore this, it could potentially undermine a wider range of community activities. Hypothetically, let's say it was decided to make the path across Acton Green formally a cycleway and that therefore Green Days, the circus and other fairs could no longer take place. I suspect many cheerleaders for ignoring the point of view of the Catholic Church would be shrill voices in favour of established use.My own view remains that it is important these changes are made and the proposed route of the cycleway is a reasonable compromise. However, the stated position of the parish priest, that a proper consultation should be held, is far from outrageous and suggesting it is betrays prejudices which have little to do with transport policy. My concern would be is that TfL has chosen to proceed in this way because the situation on the High Road has deteriorated to the extent that urgent action is needed to improved traffic flow. Ignore the transparent nonsense about this being about safety.

Francis Rowe ● 29d

>I know it has been suggested that the left turn from CHR going west onto Heathfield is an issue with cyclists being "hooked" by other road users making the same turn.I don't think that's a problem, when the light is green for people on bikes it's only green for people on bikes so people on bikes are the only people moving at that point. I'm not going to entertain catering for people that jump lights, albeit lights for people on bikes should be fair.>There was a clear risk that needed to be addressed regarding the right turn from Heathfield onto CHRThe turn itself is actually ok, there is an pre green light for people on bikes, although it's on the other side of the road, and the main lights go green very quickly after so if the driver in front floors it it could be a problem.The actual issue with this approach is getting to the advanced stop line on a bike, per my post above.>However, I am concerned that unless the cut through cycle way back onto C9 is physically separated from the pavement the risk to pedestrians should the proposals be implemented especially from ebikes is unacceptably highNot sure about that, although I get the point about ebikes, but I think you mean illegal unregistered mopeds or electric motorbikes (i.e. illegal motorvehicles), not ebikes which are classified as pedal cycles.illegal mopeds or electric motorbikes are not pedal cycles or EPACS (electrically assisted pedal cycles), and should be confiscated and maybe crushed, with the rider receiving points/IN10 endorsment, just like any motor vehicle being used illegally/without insurance.I'm often heard on CHR telling people on such things to "get that motorbike out of my bike lane". I ride an ebike, a legal ebike.Having said that again, if a pedestrian is injured or killed on the pavemnt in london statistically it's going to be a driver in a car/van/lorry or bus that does it, not someobdy on a bike or even an illegal moped/motorbike, so a sense of persective is needed.

Paul James ● 26d

The problem at the Heathfield Road junction turning right into CHR is not so much people ignoring the ASL but that the short phase means that when you arrive by bike at the junction there will be a queue often including a bus. If I haven't managed to  make my way to the front I just stay on the road and join the Cycleway later - this gives the extra advantage of a quicker passage through the lights at Dukes Avenue. Having to do this is a bit of a pain but not inherently dangerous and, as Mark has pointed out, there is a way of avoiding the junction for less confident cyclists.Arguing that statistically people are not likely to be killed if the cycleway is moved onto the pavement means you haven't really understood why many people are unhappy about this. As far as I am aware no pedestrian has been seriously hurt in Chiswick by a cyclist on Cycleway 9. However, low impact collisions are commonplace - I've seen several over the last few years all of which ended with both parties leaving the scene unharmed. Data will not capture how this makes people feel when they are walking in Chiswick - many people, particularly the elderly and people with limited mobility have found the changes confusing and unsettling and a visit to the High Road is less relaxing.Over the last few years this has been compounded by the advent of very heavy e-bikes often ridden with a lack of care. This means that putting the cycleway on the pavement between Dukes Avenue and Heathfield Terrace will make it intimidating for some pedestrians.What perhaps should be considered is making it a shared use pavement with lower speed limits and specifically signed pedestrian priority.

Francis Rowe ● 26d

I paused for a couple of minutes by the Heathfield Terrace junction yesterday to try and envisage how these changes might work in practice.Paul, the main problem you need to consider is why it would be that drivers who currently don't keep out of the ASL at the Heathfield junction won't currently lay across the designated crossing point for cyclists.The signalled crossing for cyclists will have to take place at a red phase for both the left turn out of CHR and northbound on Heathfield Terrace. This will be designed to be as short as possible otherwise the benefits of reintroducing the left filter lane are reduced. Kids on bikes may be prone to moving off more slowly than other cyclists so there is a risk here that, if they haven't fully crossed by the end of the phase they come into conflict with  traffic moving north or turning left off CHR (where sightlines may be obscured). It'll be hard to tell until we see the junction actually up and running but there are possible hazards here.It seems to me that if you were to approach this junction with a bike from Heathfield Terrace you have four options:1) stick with the designated route2) cut the corner and rejoin the cycleway in front of the lamb (no issue if you are cycling with a child)3) cross into Barley Mow Passage (any no vehicles signs can be disregarded if you are cycling with a child)4) stay on the road and look to rejoin the cycleway further up CHRAs 2 and 3 are probably safer and quicker than 1 and 4 I think you will find that is what most people do. However, these options are open to them now so, once again, the argument in favour of these changes making cyclists safer remains unclear.

Francis Rowe ● 22d

Hello Simon,It is worth looking at the data on who actually benefits from these projects, as the economic and safety case extends far beyond just the people using bicycles.When local authorities and Transport for London (TfL) assess transport schemes using official Department for Transport (DfT) frameworks, they calculate a project's Benefit-Cost Ratio (BCR). A transport scheme's BCR is not a narrow financial ledger; it translates broad social, health, and environmental impacts directly into hard economic value returned to the public.To look at real money rather than abstract ratios, the data shows that active travel investments routinely deliver some of the highest financial returns available on the public network:*  TAXPAYER VALUE FOR MONEY: The DfT officially classifies any project returning more than £4 for every £1 spent as "Very High" value. While capital-heavy road projects and motorway upgrades typically yield returns of only £1.50 to £3.70 per £1 spent (which are often eroded over time by induced traffic), active travel schemes average £5 to £13 returned for every single pound invested. In fact, some high-performing urban schemes reach returns of £19 to £35 per £1 spent, making them exceptionally cost-effective.*  HEALTHCARE SAVINGS: Increased daily movement lowers rates of obesity, heart disease, and mental health issues. Over 50% of the real-money returns inside a cycle lane's business case come from these public health improvements, which directly reduce pressure and financial burdens on the NHS, benefiting all local taxpayers.*  WORKPLACE PRODUCTIVITY: Physically active commuters take up to 27% fewer sick days, which significantly reduces absenteeism costs for local businesses and boosts the wider economy.*  CONGESTION AND INFRASTRUCTURE RELIEF: Fewer cars on the road lower the public costs associated with traffic delays, heavy road maintenance, and air pollution. The appraisal models calculate the exact currency savings of removing cars from gridlock to show how this protects public funds.*  A LOCAL VALUE COMPARISON (C9 VS. HAMMERSMITH BRIDGE): We can see exactly how this works by comparing two projects right on our doorstep. Transport for London's strategic active travel routes, like Cycleway 9 (C9) here in Chiswick, deliver high-velocity economic payback. Because the capital investment to create a segregated cycle track is relatively low, its compounding health, safety, and decongestion benefits mean the infrastructure can completely pay for its initial costs within just a few years of operation.In sharp contrast, Hammersmith and Fulham Council's recent cabinet reports confirm that a full engineering restoration to reopen the 139-year-old Hammersmith Bridge to modern car traffic would cost an estimated £300 million. Because cast-iron suspension bridges require massive structural overhauls to bear vehicle loads, the council formally concluded there is "no financial option available" to make it viable for cars. The extremely low economic return on that £300 million investment means it would likely never pay itself off, requiring a permanent toll on drivers just to fund its upkeep.WHAT ARE THE HARD FACTS LOCALLY FOR W4 AND CYCLEWAY 9 (C9)?We don't need to look at abstract national data to see how this works; we can look directly at the long-term evaluation data from TfL and the Metropolitan Police for our own high street:*  SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN TRAVEL HABITS: TfL traffic counts showed a 60% to 72% increase in weekday cycling along Chiswick High Road after C9 was introduced. On any given day, up to 2,700 people use the route, meaning bikes now make up roughly 20% of all "vehicles" using the high road corridor during the day.*  IMPROVED ROAD SAFETY FOR EVERYONE: Real data contradicts the idea that cycle routes create danger. According to Metropolitan Police STATS19 road safety data evaluated over the long term, overall road user casualties halved (reduced by over 50%) on the Chiswick High Road section since Cycleway 9 was fully implemented. Crucially, cyclist casualties dropped by almost two-thirds. Separating bikes from the main flow of traffic into a dedicated space makes the environment more predictable for drivers, removes cyclists from the pavements, and better shields pedestrians from motor vehicles.*  ADDRESSING THE "RULE BREAKING" CONCERN: Road safety and rule-following are incredibly important for everyone on the network—regardless of whether they are behind a wheel or on a saddle. However, transport planners have found that bad behaviour on a bike is often a symptom of poor or absent infrastructure. When cyclists feel forced to negotiate hostile junctions, share narrow spaces with heavy HGVs, or dodge vehicles encroaching on their space, they are far more likely to take unpredictable, defensive actions to feel safe. Providing a world-class, clearly defined, and segregated lane like C9 anchors cyclist behaviour. It removes them from pavements, organizes them into their own distinct traffic flow, and significantly increases compliance because the infrastructure is designed to work safely for them.*  DECONGESTION: Every person who represents one of those 2,700 daily journeys and has shifted a short neighborhood trip to active travel is one less car sitting in the local queue. This directly frees up tarmac capacity and reduces delay times for delivery drivers, buses, tradespeople, and those who genuinely have no option but to drive.*  HIGH STREET RESILIENCE: Residents who walk, wheel, or cycle to local centres visit more frequently and spend up to 40% more over time than those arriving by car. Giving people a safe, segregated environment turns the high street into a destination to linger in, rather than just a congested thoroughfare to drive through.The infrastructure itself isn't a luxury for a minority. It is a highly efficient economic and safety tool that protects public health, boosts the W4 economy, and reduces traffic for drivers.

Hans Lund-Sorensen ● 17d